> Hello,
>
> As you know, Google treats instances of invalid clicks very seriously. By
> disabling your account, we feel that we have taken the necessary measures
> to ensure that invalid clicks will not continue to occur on your site. Due
> to the proprietary nature of our monitoring system, we're not able to
> disclose any specific details of these clicks.
Wow, that's convenient isn't it. You can't see what specific people are doing on specific machines behind firewalls so you analyse behaviour patterns and penalise individuals based on those assumptions. I did wonder how you would handle the fact that you couldn't afford to adjudicate each click with human inspection. You're in murky waters indeed...
> Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed further
> participation in Google AdSense. However, if you can maintain in good
> faith that the invalid clicks we detected on your ads were not due to your
> actions or negligence, or the actions or negligence of others working for
> you, you may appeal the closing of your account.
Please accept the present note as a formal appeal.
> Google reserves sole discretion in considering whether to take any action
> on an appeal.
>
> In order to appeal the disabling of your account, please email us at
> adsense-adclicks-appeal@google.com with the details requested below. We're
> unable to consider appeals that do not contain all of this information:
>
> - Your name
Dug Falby
> - Your company's name (if applicable)
N/A
bq. > - Your publisher ID number (located in the AdSense code on your website
> with the format, pub-################)
pub-6496886088358499
> - Your website's URL
A - http://www.donkeyontheedge.com
B - http://www.labellife.com
C - http://www.pumpernickle.net
D - http://www.bigsaucer.com
> - Date your account was disabled
19 October 2005
> - Your website's audience
A - UK designers, parents and those interested in my activist ramblings
B - New launch, not sure of actual audience but target is UK record industry execs
C - People searching for UK-based usability specialists
D - New launch, to date, zero traffic (not been publicised yet)
> - The source of your website's content
A - Self-written
B - Manually aggregated by two record industry specialists.
C - Self-written
D - Written by a food journalist
> - Frequency of content updates
A - weekly
B - weekly
C - infrequent updates
D - posts are added almost daily
> - The primary sources of your website's traffic
A - links from other blogs (have been slashdotted and boingboinged in the past) as well as traffic generated by alistapart.com
B - Traffic to small to analise
C - No specific referrer stands out - general
D - No traffic yet
> - The number of people involved with the administration of the site
A - 1
B - 4
C - 1
D - 1
> - Any relevant information that you believe would explain the invalid
> click activity we detected
Well, seeing as your idiotic policy prevents you letting me know what the specific problem was, I can't very well isolate any one incident can I?
However, the problem may have happened because of bigsaucer.com.
When I launch a new site, I check the Adsense ads carefully to see if I need to do any filtering. During the first week or so I check back often and visit all the sites advertising through google. As a result of this, bigsaucer had a ridiculously high ctm.
To give you an example of why this is important, I published another site for a major UK museum. We had a whole series on Graffiti art in the UK and all the 'targeted' Adsense ads were about graffiti-removal services.
This was clearly really bad news and your ads made us look very stupid. (Can I suggest this problem might be something you guys need to look into).
I've been checking ads that look wrong or those that visitors or clients complain about on all my sites since I started using Adsense. I would be surprised to hear that your TOS does not include this in a 'fair use' definition of your service.
If it doesn't, you really need to give publishers a way to register their IP (or some other technique) so you can filter them out and allow them to do this checking without penalty.
> If Google decides to evaluate your appeal, we will do our best to inform
> you quickly and will proceed with appropriate action as necessary. If we
> have reached a decision on your appeal, subsequent or duplicate appeals
> will be ignored.
Thanks, I look forward to hearing from you
Best,
Dug
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Dug Falby
http://www.donkeyontheedge.com/
Comments (6)
Hi All,
I read everyone information and it seems that everybody is facing the same almost the same problems from google.
But agin what are the options available against google adsense, I mean if i dont want to use adsense on my website instead is there any other program same as Google Adsense, as one of my friend mentioned in this forums for msn advertising or yahoo publishing network.
Believe me i came to know this first time abt MSN, can anyone please let me know abt msn advertising in more details on my email id bhushankkir@gmail.com
My Website www.sunitsolutions.com
Posted by Baba | January 3, 2008 11:19 AM
Posted on January 3, 2008 11:19
I am writing a story about Google making millions off of innocent publishers and would like feed back from everyone.
If you would like to share your story please contact me. I am only interested in valid sites not Google content sites.
contact me at flipmybic@gmail.com or at www.petpeev.com
I am not interested in getting my account back I only had 38.00 and I signed up as an experiment to see if these stories had any truth to them.
Turns out google only wants the big dogs and the google content type sites (why you might ask ) $ that's why those sites make them tons of $
Posted by knot | July 24, 2007 4:58 PM
Posted on July 24, 2007 16:58
Well, I'm not surprised, I figured it had to be algorithm-based.
I just find this amazing, that they shut people down based on averages and then expect the honest publishers to fight their way back into business.
How bloody convenient for them. Imagine if our legal system worked like that (no, wait, with new anti terrorism laws it almost does...)
Posted by Dug | January 25, 2006 6:40 AM
Posted on January 25, 2006 06:40
for simplicity of the tracking of invalid click.
It's just a timer + cookies,
Google simply caculate the ad from the time you start to download the ads, and the time you send the click to them,
if the time it too short, they will classify it to be invalid,
The length to be calculated as "Short" depends on the length of your article, if your articles is very long and with thousands of words, they assump the time need for reading the articles is very long, so like it will be classified as "INVALID", while if there's only a few words in the articles, the time needed for reading the articles is short, so invalid click exist only if ppl click the ad at once ther load the page..
For more accurate, they count the average time for clicking an ad on specific pages and compare with those INVALID.
Posted by adsense victim | January 25, 2006 3:11 AM
Posted on January 25, 2006 03:11
Why publishers are leaving google adsense program for ypn
why publishers are leaving google adsense
publishers are leaving google adsense program
1. No tranparency in their program
2. Google forefiet their money.
3. Google punish innocent small publishers.
4. Google dosent have any mechanism to prevent invalid click or even judge it.
5. They have very slow customers service to reply to queries of publishers.
6. Your appeals are not heard if your account is disabled.
7. They treat publishers like criminals.
8. They humiliate publishers.
9. If they disable your account then you manually have to remove all their codes & it destroys publishers & webmasters websites.
10. They do not disclose how much money they are going to pay to you or how much profit they are sharing with publishers & how much they are looting.
11. They place cookise in your computer & get all the information o your web surfing habits.
12. They are trying to dictate & overtake internet advertising.
13. When they disable publishers account they also debar publishers from submitting their websites to google searche engine sometimes & lower their website rankings.
14. Google also punish publishers & webmasters by changing their policies frequently without most publishers knowing about it by inserting clauses in their terms & conditions which are against the interest of publishers so that they find it difficult claim damages in the courts.
15. Google is not transparent in thier referral programs as publishers dont know how much money they are going to get?
It is better if publishers & advertisers join msn advertising or yahoo publishing network
Posted by publisher | January 6, 2006 12:34 AM
Posted on January 6, 2006 00:34
The same thing happened to me, have you gotten your results yet? If so, email them to me please.
Posted by Eddie | November 20, 2005 10:19 PM
Posted on November 20, 2005 22:19